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Outrage of the Week - To Gluten or Not to Gluten

I hope that Pope Benedict deals with this bit of ridiculousness quick, fast, and in a hurry.

I can't believe there are Catholic clergy who would consider the composition of the communion wafer more important than the act of Communion itself! If Jesus is part of the Trinity and therefore a part of God, that means he is omnipotent, yes? If he is omnipotent, then he can bloody well be symbolized in a communion wafer made of rice as easily as he can one made of wheat.

According to Christian belief, we are all God's children and therefore all entitled to participate in the breaking of bread to symbolize the sacrifice Christianity teaches that Christ made for all of us. It is doctrinally absurd to exclude some, ostensibly, of Christ's people by claiming that only communion wafers made from wheat are valid.

This is going to be Benedict's first test as Pope, and the world will be watching him, to see if dogma will win out over compassion. I hope he passes the test. I'd like to think he will.

Current Mood: fuming

*shakes her Protestant head* My (Evangelical Lutheran) church has used both regular and gluten free (i.e. not made of wheat) wafers for years without any of us being struck down by lightning. Our view is that, if it's consecrated, then it's consecrated. Period.

I totally agree with that. The consecration is what matters, not the chemical composition. It astounds me that this is even an issue. Yet some twit in the Catholic Church is willing to invalidate a little girl's communion over it, and the parents have appealed the ruling to Rome.

I really hope Benedict will see sense in this. I would prefer to stay Catholic, but I will leave if no way can be found to allow this child to celebrate the saccrament. We build ramps for members of the congregation who are in wheelchairs; why can't we provide communion wafers which aren't made of wheat?


Communion wafers

The scriptures don't mention wheat bread, although I'm sure that's what it was. The important factor seems to be only that it is unleavened. So I don't see why an unleavened bread made from something other than wheat should be a problem.

Anyway, I thought that Catholics believed that once you swallowed it, it transubstantiated into the actual flesh of Christ. Therefore, it's not wheat anyway.

At any rate, it's the prerogative of the Catholic Church to decide it must be wheat or not. They get to make the rules for their church.

Re: Communion wafers

Even though I was raised Catholic, I never believed in transubstantiation; never even realized that was what I was supposed to believe until I was either a teenager or in college. I always took it as a given that the communion wafer symbolized Christ, as that was the only thing that made sense to me. It is still the only thing that makes sense to me.

I have decided that this issue will be my litmus test for remaining a Catholic. If my religion cannot be compassionate enough (and intelligent enough) to welcome all of its own followers to participate fully in worship, then I don't need to be a Catholic anymore. I will become a full member of the Methodist church.


Re: Communion wafers

Most of my extended family is Catholic. I'm not sure what their views are on doctrine. I agree with you that the bread and the wine are symbols.

How do you decide which church you wish to belong to? I'm a doctrine kind of person, looking for it to measure up against what I read in the Bible. I'm curious about how people view religion in their lives and what prompts the choices they make. How did you get involved with the Methodist Church?

Re: Communion wafers

Mark's family are Methodist and have been longtime members of Westbury UMC here in Houston. I started going to church with Mark's parents, since they offered to take me with them, plus the thucch is only a couple of blocks away from our house. The first time I went, I liked the pastor immediately. His name is Rev. J. D. Phillips, and he's just wonderful! One could argue that I go there because of the minister rather than because of the religion, but I've made friends there, and I like Westbury.

I also like the open, somewhat laid-back attitudes of Methodism. I like the fact that everyone is welcome to share communion; you don't have to be Methodist, the way you have to be Catholic to have communion in a Catholic church, for example. I like the fact that they allow women priests, and that they are not so caught up in preserving tradition that they're unwilling to adapt to changing times. So, if I ever did decide to leave Catholicism for another sect of Christianity, I would prefer to be Methodist.

I still very much cheris the old writings and the wisdom of the Catholic Church. I haven't run across too many Methodist mystics, for example, whereas medieval Catholicism is filled with them, and their writings are beautiful. eo change the bureaucracy with which I choose to ally myself, in many ways, my heart will always be Catholic.